{"id":425,"date":"2023-05-11T07:56:00","date_gmt":"2023-05-11T05:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/?p=425"},"modified":"2023-09-06T11:09:30","modified_gmt":"2023-09-06T09:09:30","slug":"deuxieme-article","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/en\/deuxieme-article\/","title":{"rendered":"DD, RSE, CSR, B Corp, Greenwashing\u2026WTF?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull is-light\" style=\"min-height:7928px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim-100 has-background-dim\" style=\"background-color:#ffffff\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile is-vertically-aligned-center is-image-fill\" style=\"grid-template-columns:44% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\" style=\"background-image:url(http:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-1024x741.jpg);background-position:50% 50%\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"741\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-1024x741.jpg\" alt=\"nature arc en ciel developpement durable art\" class=\"wp-image-134 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-1024x741.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-300x217.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-768x556.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-1536x1112.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-pixabay-60628-2-2048x1482.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-color\" style=\"color:#000000;font-size:32px\">we explain it all!<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-color\" style=\"color:#000000;font-size:32px\">THE BEGINNING OF THE END - 1997<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-color\" style=\"color:#000000;font-size:17px\"><strong> <\/strong>The term originated in a report called the Brundtland Report, drawn up by the World Commission on Environment and Development of<strong>UN<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Definition<\/strong> \"Development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In English, we say\u00a0<strong>Sustainable development<\/strong>\u00a0\"or \"Sustainability\" (talking to fence people:1 point for the one who pronounces it correctly!).<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-5 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignfull has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:auto 32%\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center has-text-color\" style=\"color:#000000\"><strong>MORE RECENTLY...<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-extra-small-font-size\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-1 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-style-abisko-minus-90-deg-column-content-desktop is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">D\u00c9VELOPPEMENT DURABLE<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-4 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\" style=\"border-top-width:1px;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-1 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p> The UN has developed a program called (drum roll...) : <strong>Agenda 2030<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It focuses on <strong>17 objectives <\/strong>including the best-known <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Take urgent action to combat climate change and its repercussions,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The use of renewable energies...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And much less well known (Thanks tuconnaispasdd): <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Promoting well-being for all at all ages, <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Achieve gender equality and empower all women and girls, <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Access to justice and healthcare for all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> \u2022 No Poverty: Objective #1...and it's only green! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The 5 pillars:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>1\/CLIMATE CHANGE - 2\/BIODIVERSITY - 3\/SOLIDARITY - 4\/SANITATION - 5\/RESPONSIBLE CONSUMPTION<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1022\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capture-decran-2023-05-09-a-12.14.01-1-1024x1022.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-499\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capture-decran-2023-05-09-a-12.14.01-1-1024x1022.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capture-decran-2023-05-09-a-12.14.01-1-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capture-decran-2023-05-09-a-12.14.01-1-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capture-decran-2023-05-09-a-12.14.01-1-768x767.png 768w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capture-decran-2023-05-09-a-12.14.01-1.png 1340w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"936\" height=\"466\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/sdgs_poster_936_rev_fr.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/sdgs_poster_936_rev_fr.png 936w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/sdgs_poster_936_rev_fr-300x149.png 300w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/sdgs_poster_936_rev_fr-768x382.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 936px) 100vw, 936px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\" style=\"border-top-width:1px;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-2 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\">IN A NUTSHELL\u2026<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Each country (193 member states) does its own little market of objectives...in 3 categories <strong>\"environment\" - \"society\" - \"economy\"<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More commonly referred to as \"goal implementation strategies.\"<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\" style=\"border-top-width:1px;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p>Fin the <strong>17 Objectives \"to save the world\"<\/strong>(and I'm not the one saying it) <strong>here <\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.un.org\/sustainabledevelopment\/fr\/objectifs-de-developpement-durable\/\">https:\/\/www.un.org\/sustainabledevelopment\/fr\/objectifs-de-developpement-durable\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GAME:<\/strong> CAN YOU FIND OUT WHICH MAJOR COUNTRIES ARE MISSING? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>;-)<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-7 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\" style=\"border-top-width:1px;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-5 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">WHAT ABOUT CSR? <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\" style=\"border-top-width:1px;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-6 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p>Now that you've understood all about the 17 goals of sustainable development, imagine that a company (or any other organization) applies them within its own business model: <strong>CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility) <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In French, as you may have guessed, it's RSE (Responsabilit\u00e9 Sociale\/soci\u00e9tale des Entreprises).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How does it work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With a <strong>CSR charter<\/strong>,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> or <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022A <strong>CSR roadmap<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the same way as for countries, each company chooses from the small colored squares to define commitments that correspond\/adapt to the company's policy... (we won't look at the neighbor's, I promise).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Too much blabla says this man?<\/strong> (It's coming from a French song)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To avoid words and words sown to the wind... there are:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022<strong> The RSE report<\/strong>which is based on concrete proof of commitments (the famous carbon footprint, ISO 26000, 9001, 14001, etc.).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Numbers, numbers, it's always more serious... <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 <strong>Labels too<\/strong> ! You'll come across them more and more often (Bcorp, Lucie, Engag\u00e9s RSE...). Together with companies, they define a number of criteria to be respected and monitored by the labels.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Results displayed BEFORE\/ AFTER, as you wish? Here you go!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What about parity? Employee well-being?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My law professor would say \"Proof, proof, always the problem in court...\". <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-15145983-1-683x1024.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-540\" width=\"225\" height=\"337\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-15145983-1-683x1024.webp 683w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-15145983-1-200x300.webp 200w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-15145983-1-768x1152.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-15145983-1.webp 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-style-default is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-8 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">One for all, all for one...<\/h3>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-left\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-9 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">Committed companies in search of meaning, embracing their employees in the right gestures for everyday life. Sounds great, you say? Yes, but let's not forget...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity is-style-default\"\/>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-style-large is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\"It's not the wrapping that makes the gift\".<\/p>\n<cite>- Anonymous<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity is-style-default\"\/>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" style=\"font-size:85px\">AND...once upon a time there was nasty greenwashing<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignfull is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-4 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"padding-top:1em;padding-right:1em;padding-bottom:1em;padding-left:1em\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-3 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:320px\">\n<p>...which \"qualifies any advertising message that may mislead the public about the real ecological quality of a product or service, or about the reality of an organization's sustainable development approach\", according to Ademe (Agence de la transition \u00e9cologique). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And yes, when a company makes a commitment, naturally - or because investors have told them it would be a good idea - they want to shout it loud and clear! Especially as it costs a bit of money to rethink priorities... In this context, we're not immune to a few abuses...<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignleft is-light has-custom-content-position is-position-center-right\" style=\"min-height:600px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim-100 has-background-dim\" style=\"background-color:#f6f6f6\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/200w-1.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-465\" width=\"282\" height=\"282\"\/><\/figure><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile is-vertically-aligned-center has-background\" style=\"background-color:#f1f5c7;grid-template-columns:auto 48%\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\" style=\"padding-top:2em;padding-right:2em;padding-bottom:2em;padding-left:2em\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">As if by magic, everything becomes 100% natural and good for the planet: we eat organic vegetable ham in eco-responsible packaging, the hens are free-range (at least in the photo...), everything is recyclable or recycled...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">Campaigns and slogans are \"carbon-neutral\", and after \"greenwashing\", we've added \"greenbashing\", \"socialwashing\" and other such swear words.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/patterns\/files\/2021\/06\/pear-1-1024x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5263 size-full\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>But when everything turns green, consumers see red...<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-raphael-brasileiro-3953965-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-218 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-raphael-brasileiro-3953965-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-raphael-brasileiro-3953965-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-raphael-brasileiro-3953965-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-raphael-brasileiro-3953965-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/pexels-raphael-brasileiro-3953965-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\">thankfully...<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignfull is-stacked-on-mobile is-vertically-aligned-center\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-6827532-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-6827532-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-6827532-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-6827532-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/pexels-photo-6827532.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>Responsible communications agencies <strong>communication responsable<\/strong> try to sort out what's real and what's not, to alert consumers and, above all, not to lie - well, not too much... but to highlight all the good deeds that contribute in one way or another to the collective good, even if the road is long. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c0 ce propos, communiquez en \u00e9vitant les pi\u00e8ges du greenwashing avec\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">tu connais pas dd?<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Discover the other articles here: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/en\/bienvenue\/page-d-exemple\/\">https:\/\/www.tuconnaispasdd.com\/bienvenue\/page-d-exemple\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How to understand it all in just a few lines.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":602,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v22.5 - 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